Even the staunchest pro-choicer's must admit that this is nothing less than murder.

Let the hemming and hawing being.

ugh, long day -- thats BEGIN, not being...

Marty, that's what the "staunchest pro-choicer" will never admit, must never admit. Don't count on them doing so. We crossed that red line a good long time ago.

I remember hearing one of the stanchest pro-choicers admiting abortion is murder and supporting it on Air America last year. I suspect that the whole choice vs. murder battle is a deception. We argue, they pretend to disagree to delay they real argument. It might be better to argue more directly, some of them supported Willie Horton's murder of healthy adults, ask them, why?

I kind of get the idea of euthanasia for adults who're conscious enough to make an informed decision about their terminal illnesses and the pain they'd have to go through to continue living. I don't approve, but I understand how there could be arguments for it.

I DON'T see how it could possibly be considered justifiable that one could make this decision for another person (and I don't know anyone who would seriously argue that a newborn isn't a person).

Ripper wrote:
"I remember hearing one of the stanchest pro-choicers admiting abortion is murder and supporting it on Air America last year."

I remember hearing a candidate in a PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE say that he believed unborn babies were living humans, that it was murder, and that he still stood on the side of choice.