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February 26, 2004

Signs of Intelligence

Keeping up my small-scale efforts to encourage youngsters to think like me, I'd like to take a moment to congratulate Marcus Ross of the University of Rhode Island's Students for the Awareness of Conservatism for braving the zeitgeist to enunciate, intelligently, academic blasphemy:

Proponents of same-sex marriage insist their quest for marriage is the same as the fight to abolish laws prohibiting interracial marriage during the Civil Rights era. But here's where the analogy of interracial and same-sex marriage breaks down: there are no fundamental differences between black, white, Asian or Latino males. Skin color is superficial and (to me, anyway) irrelevant as to who someone wants to marry. But the differences between a man and a woman (irrespective of race)? Those are relevant. Males and females are certainly equal, but they clearly are not identical, nor are the types of relationships in which they engage.
Posted by Justin Katz at February 26, 2004 5:17 PM
Marriage & Family
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I actually agree with the main point Mr. Ross makes. It is perfectly logical and consistant to support interracial marriage, but not same-sex marriage because one feels race is irrelvant and sex is not. That does not mean the analogy is not helpful. It shows the problem with the "there's no inequality because neither sex can marry a person of the opposite sex" argument. The problem is that it still draws a distinction based on sex. Mr. Ross is correct that the distinction perhaps should be permitted if it is relevant to some compelling state interest.

I don't believe it is relevant. Mr. Ross has one understanding of what it is to be a man and what it is to be a woman. I have a different one. He talks about a Dad making it to more baseball games. In my family, it was my Mom who was the big baseball fan. My Dad preferred football. If he thinks it is important for his children to have a parent of each gender, he should marry someone of the opposite gender. In our society we generally allow parents to decide what is best for their own children. Yes, there are limits, but those limits need to be justified. I don't think they are justified in this case.

Mr. Ross talks about bringing together two people who have different experiences. I don't see those experiences as primarily being defined by one's gender, though. I think of people as human beings first. Human beings each have different experiences that are shaped only in part by one's gender. They are shaped by so much more, though. A same sex couple can bring together two people with just as much diversity in experience as an opposite sex couple. He talks about the unique perspective a male has. I don't think there is a unique male perpsective. I think we all have unique perspectives.

Posted by: Gabriel Rosenberg at February 26, 2004 6:17 PM

Hey Justin, I just noticed you found this too. Pretty good argument and I linked to it in my latest concerning Sullivan and Krauthammer's takes on the FMA. I think that gay parents can be good parents, but the ideal is obvious: a mother and a father. I have seen the news pieces on those gay couple who have taken in children nobody else wanted. I commend them for that and believe they are doing God's work. Nonetheless, kids need parents of each sex. I'm not going to get into why here, though I could, but I will say that it points to how absurd this has all gotten when we have to legitimize why a Mom and Dad are ideal. Deconstructionism, ya gotta love it.

Posted by: Marc C. at February 27, 2004 10:31 AM

I thought it appropriate to note in this space that I've replied to Prof. Rosenberg (and he has replied back) here.

Posted by: Justin Katz at February 27, 2004 10:38 AM

Marc,

I agree with you about stable gay couples that take in children, although even with adoption, I believe there ought to be a hierarchy of choices.

Posted by: Justin Katz at February 27, 2004 10:40 AM